several years ago, probably about the 1980s, i recall reading a reference to the term "am-haaretz" [literally "people of the earth/land" a 1c ad jewish term used by the pharisees as a pejorative to refer to rustic, peasant people] in the watchtower magazine in association with how watchtower followers were to treat disfellowshipped ones.. can anyone recall this and find this reference, or am i dreaming it all up?.
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Several years ago, probably about the 1980s, I recall reading a reference to the term "am-haaretz" [literally "people of the earth/land" a 1C AD Jewish term used by the Pharisees as a pejorative to refer to rustic, peasant people] in the Watchtower magazine in association with how Watchtower followers were to treat disfellowshipped ones.
Can anyone recall this and find this reference, or am I dreaming it all up?
"watchtower world"... "a place where "stupid is better!"...
the wbt$ is always doing something stupid..from the begining of the wbt$ to this very day... stupid is on the menu,in watchtower world... .
it never ends..there is always something stupid happening within the wbt$... these are bethel one liners..bethelites have posted on jwd/jwn... that i have collected over time... .
Yeah, verily, Blessed are they who go round and round in endless circles
for they shall be called
BIG WHEELS
system of things.
new system of things.
we are living in a system of.
Good Work!! Thanks a zillion
my dad was in the army and came into the truth in 1968. the family was split up because dad was a piss head and mom was a axe murderer.. not a good start to bringing up 2 kids at the time.
his brother was offering him a job as a programmer at diigtal computers in 1974. my dad told his brother to go away and stop offering him these jobs as the end was coming in 1975!!
if my dad had took the job in 1974 our family would be millioners now like his brother and his kids.
OOPs. "shdow of anonymity" in paragraph 4 should of course be "shadow of anonymity".
My kingdom for an editing capability!
my dad was in the army and came into the truth in 1968. the family was split up because dad was a piss head and mom was a axe murderer.. not a good start to bringing up 2 kids at the time.
his brother was offering him a job as a programmer at diigtal computers in 1974. my dad told his brother to go away and stop offering him these jobs as the end was coming in 1975!!
if my dad had took the job in 1974 our family would be millioners now like his brother and his kids.
I can't honestly see any icon here that enables me to either edit or check my posts for the spelling.
But, anyway, talking about 1974, it is true that the suppressed hysteria engendered by the Watchtower, has been responsible for many a twist for the worst in people's lives. Mine included. I was 22, in the bloom of youth, and, with the clear connivance of the Watchtower leadership, mesmerized by my own arrogance.
I believed. That was the problem. It was an irrational, blind conviction, supposedly based on the "trustworthy" chronology of the Bible. It took me a while to discover, when the dust began to settle after the 1975 fiasco, that such absolute devotion to a bunch of impious men was not unique to the Watchtower leadership. These men, unencumbered by spiritual values, and whose only sustenance was self-interest, were merely an extension of similar techniques used by others who impose their bigotries on an unsuspecting following. Some of these monuments to institutionalized piety, like the Armstrong abberation, have dissolved into dust.
To the men of the Watchtower, who hide like knaves behind a shdow of anonymity, the Bible becomes merely a tool to effect their authority. Their doctrinal absolutes come, not from a systematic study of the Bible and its contents, but through an idiosyncratic interpretation of it. An interpretation that disregards even the most fundamental implements of investigation. Thus, to these selfish and arrogant men, the Bible, becomes, like a pliant whore, a provision to say whatever it is the Watchtower leadership wants it to say.
The tragedy is that the bitch that sired such misapplied expectations is on heat again. In the manipulative hands of the successors to that 1975 leadership, a new breed of leaders, equally avaricious in their grasp over the hearts and minds of their followers, is setting about to convince another generation of innocents in the supposed "trustworthiness of Bible chronology".
This cycle of mindless exploitation will continue until every last vestige of Watchtower hypocrisy is expunged from the face of the earth. I believe that forums such as this are playing a major part in just such a conclusion.
with the printing facilities for the magazines having been moved to canada, can anyone tell me where the writing department is now located?.
still in brooklyn?.
in patterson?.
Thanks, FF, Moshe, Pirata, Erreve and Heaven for the comments.
Its nice to keep abreast of the new moves going on.
with the printing facilities for the magazines having been moved to canada, can anyone tell me where the writing department is now located?.
still in brooklyn?.
in patterson?.
Actually, the headquarters is still in America, just not in Brooklyn.
Much of the executive work is still carried out there. But most of this has shifted to Patterson, NJ.
For cost saving measures however, much of the printing facilities have moved out of the USA and placed in Canada. Evidently the Watchtower, though still an asset rich corporation, is having a ready cash flow problem, so it has to make decisions that reflect this new reality.
It is still possible, given the advance in technology, that the writing dept can still be in Patterson, while the actual manual work of printing can be done in Canada.
with the printing facilities for the magazines having been moved to canada, can anyone tell me where the writing department is now located?.
still in brooklyn?.
in patterson?.
With the printing facilities for the magazines having been moved to Canada, can anyone tell me where the Writing Department is now located?
Are they:
Still in Brooklyn?
In Patterson?
Canada?
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bookmarked and searchable 1960 new wrold translation of the hebrew scriptures-pdf http://www.sendspace.com/file/lob9xf --------------------------------------------------- here are the links to the entire set: 1950/51 http://www.sendspace.com/file/1mxtic 1953 http://www.sendspace.com/file/oyqg2i 1955 http://www.sendspace.com/file/xsl6kb 1957 http://www.sendspace.com/file/o1vvou 1958 http://www.sendspace.com/file/dxadmv 1960 http://www.sendspace.com/file/lob9xf atlantis!
As you suspected it is a question of copyright. Copyright protection for any given publication is presumed to last for a generation from the date of publication, which in this case was 1950. For legal reasons this protection is presumed to be for thirty years. Thus any publication of the Watchtower's made more than thirty years ago falls into what is termed the public domain, and can be accessed by the people for purposes of research.
Now there may be the situation where someone purchases the portal to publish that material after its expiry date, which purchase itself lasts for thirty years. This would mean that the publication has again moved into private property and is copyrighted. Sixty years after its initial publication date, it again falls into the public domain. To the best of my knowledge no one has purchased the publication rights to the first edition of the NWT.
The new elder's book is a sore problem. It is after all copyrighted, and is still the intellectual property of the Watchtower society till at least 2040. After that it is fair game for all.
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bookmarked and searchable 1960 new wrold translation of the hebrew scriptures-pdf http://www.sendspace.com/file/lob9xf --------------------------------------------------- here are the links to the entire set: 1950/51 http://www.sendspace.com/file/1mxtic 1953 http://www.sendspace.com/file/oyqg2i 1955 http://www.sendspace.com/file/xsl6kb 1957 http://www.sendspace.com/file/o1vvou 1958 http://www.sendspace.com/file/dxadmv 1960 http://www.sendspace.com/file/lob9xf atlantis!
WOW! This completes the first attempt by the Watchtower to produce a Bible that said whatever they wanted it to say. It must have been a massive undertaking to transcribe every page into a pdf format for all of us. Just to let you know we appreciate the hard word.
For those interested in statistics:
1. All the six volumes collectively amount to a massive 3,792 pages of text.
2 Unique to this edition of the NW"T" is a word chain. There are over three hundred words that are cross linked throughout the five volumes of the Hebrew OT. For instance, if you look up Deut 32:41 you will see the first use of the word "adversary" in the text. Next to the word there is a symbol made up of a circle. In the margin, next to the circle, you will see a text telling you where the next occurence of this word occurs, which is Deut 33:7. And so on down the line. By looking up the circle symbol, you will be able to trace every occurence of the word in the OT. Page 425 of volume five of the OT lists every word in the English that is thus indexed.
3 There were some bugs that Freddy Franz had to iron out in later editions of the NW"T". For instance. how would one translate the Greek word "arche" at Rev 3:14? Freddy insisted that it should be "beginning" suggesting that Jesus was created.
Several evangelical translators felt that "origin" is a better translation here and pointed out that even Freddy acknowledged that. Evidently Franz was embarrassed by the fact that in the 1950 edition as shown in this series, he had translated "arche" at Jo 1:1 as "originally". Never again in all future editions of the NW"T" would "originally" occur!
4 Several footnotes would have to undergo excision or alteration. The footnote at Jo 8:58 notes that "it has been rendered in the perfect indefinite tense" despite the fact that several Watchtower apologists tried to prove that this non existent tense was actually valid, Franz finally gave up and altered the footnote in later editions.
This certainly brings back memories! Would you believe I still have all the six volumes bound together into one single tome which my mum gave me back in 1960! I was eighteen and full of vigour for the Watchtower. Half a century ago!
Cheers.
